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Larry Tye is a writer and avid reader based in the Pacific Northwest. Before pursuing writing full-time, they spent over a decade working in education. When not working on their next book, Larry Tye can usually be found hiking with their dog or trying out new coffee shops in their neighborhood.
It was just alright. The pacing was a bit slow and I found myself skimming a few pages. It wasn't terrible, just okay. Might work better for someone else, just wasn't completely for me.
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Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
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Not bad, but not my favorite. It had some good moments, but the overall plot felt a bit disjointed in the second half. It's fine if you have nothing else to read.
Gary ThompsonNovember 27, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
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Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. A solid 5/5 for me.
Susan RobinsonSeptember 21, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Would probably read it again at some point.
Joshua NelsonNovember 08, 2024
A very satisfying read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Would probably read it again at some point.
Susan RiveraOctober 04, 2024
A very satisfying read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Will be looking for more from this author.
Deborah CollinsJune 22, 2025
It was just alright. Some parts were interesting, while others were a bit of a slog to get through. It's fine if you have nothing else to read.
Ryan JohnsonDecember 12, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Still a good book.
Sandra FloresJune 28, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Enjoyable weekend read.
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A very satisfying read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
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Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
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Really enjoyed this one. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Will be looking for more from this author.
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Finished it in a couple of days. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Would probably read it again at some point.
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I was pleasantly surprised. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
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Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Would probably read it again at some point.
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Finished it in a couple of days. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Will be looking for more from this author.
Kenneth EvansJuly 09, 2024
A solid read. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. A solid 4 stars from me.
Betty TurnerSeptember 18, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Glad I picked this up.
Anthony GreenMay 17, 2025
Pretty good overall. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Enjoyable weekend read.
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Emily YoungDecember 01, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Would probably read it again at some point.
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A solid read. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Enjoyable weekend read.
Jessica TorresJuly 04, 2024
It was okay. The pacing was a bit slow and I found myself skimming a few pages. It wasn't terrible, just okay. Probably won't read it again, but it was an okay way to pass the time.
Matthew ThompsonFebruary 21, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Worth the time and money.
Jacob PhillipsJanuary 03, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Not bad at all.
Charles MooreNovember 21, 2025
A very satisfying read. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
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Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
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Pretty good overall. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. A solid 4 stars from me.
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Such a great read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Andrew EdwardsNovember 02, 2024
A solid read. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
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A solid read. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
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Such a great read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. A solid 5/5 for me.
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I liked it for the most part. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. A solid 4 stars from me.
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Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Enjoyable weekend read.
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A very satisfying read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Glad I picked this up.
Nancy DavisApril 06, 2024
An average read for me. It felt a bit repetitive in the middle. Could have been shorter. Just right down the middle.
Dorothy TorresFebruary 25, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. A solid 4 stars from me.
Mary RodriguezJanuary 20, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. A solid 5/5 for me.
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Glad someone recommended this to me. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Would probably read it again at some point.
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Pretty good overall. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Still a good book.
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Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
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Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Glad I picked this up.
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Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. A solid 5/5 for me.
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Pretty good overall. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Still a good book.
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Finished it in a couple of days. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Will be looking for more from this author.
Joseph JacksonApril 11, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Enjoyable weekend read.
Nicholas HarrisJune 29, 2025
I have mixed feelings about this one. The writing was fine, but I didn't feel very connected to the characters. They felt a bit flat. It's fine if you have nothing else to read.
George SmithDecember 03, 2025
I liked it for the most part. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Not bad at all.
Nancy TorresMay 10, 2024
I liked it for the most part. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Still a good book.
Sharon TurnerSeptember 29, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. A solid 4 stars from me.
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Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Worth the time and money.
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Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
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Glad someone recommended this to me. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Glad I picked this up.
Jacob NguyenSeptember 27, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Would probably read it again at some point.
Lisa RobinsonJuly 11, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Would probably read it again at some point.
Sandra NelsonOctober 03, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. Enjoyable weekend read.
Eric NelsonJanuary 24, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. A solid 4 stars from me.
Jacob EvansAugust 06, 2024
Such a great read. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Will be looking for more from this author.
Laura TaylorApril 19, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Michael CarterDecember 31, 2024
Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
Joshua YoungMay 10, 2024
Such a great read. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Will be looking for more from this author.
Charles MooreDecember 13, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Ashley EvansJuly 08, 2024
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Stephanie PerezMay 22, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Glad I picked this up.
Susan GomezOctober 31, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
William ClarkOctober 04, 2024
Pretty good overall. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Enjoyable weekend read.
Thomas BakerNovember 11, 2025
A very satisfying read. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Glad I picked this up.
Thomas KingSeptember 03, 2024
Pretty good overall. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. A solid 4 stars from me.
Rebecca RiveraDecember 07, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
William MartinezMarch 04, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Worth the time and money.
Kevin GreenJune 10, 2024
Not bad, but not my favorite. The writing was fine, but I didn't feel very connected to the characters. They felt a bit flat. Might work better for someone else, just wasn't completely for me.
Sharon BakerMarch 01, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Margaret SmithJune 07, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Cynthia ThomasSeptember 13, 2024
A very satisfying read. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. A solid 5/5 for me.
Dorothy MitchellMarch 03, 2025
I liked it for the most part. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Stephanie PerezMay 17, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Would probably read it again at some point.
Kimberly MillerDecember 11, 2025
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Daniel CruzJuly 24, 2025
Good, but not quite perfect. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. A solid 4 stars from me.
Steven ParkerApril 10, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Glad I picked this up.
Thomas BakerSeptember 13, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Elizabeth WrightJuly 26, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Would probably read it again at some point.
Daniel ScottJuly 06, 2024
Glad someone recommended this to me. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Will be looking for more from this author.
Paul MartinezJune 13, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Glad I picked this up.
Margaret SanchezAugust 23, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Eric NelsonMay 03, 2025
A very satisfying read. The pacing was spot on and the characters felt real. I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Will be looking for more from this author.
Richard DiazMay 03, 2024
It was just alright. It felt a bit repetitive in the middle. Could have been shorter. A generous 3 stars.
Anthony BakerNovember 02, 2024
A solid read. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. Not bad at all.
Nancy DiazJanuary 16, 2025
Not bad, but not my favorite. It had some good moments, but the overall plot felt a bit disjointed in the second half. Probably won't read it again, but it was an okay way to pass the time.
Ashley WhiteAugust 27, 2024
Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Deborah AndersonSeptember 24, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Would probably read it again at some point.
Carol LopezDecember 23, 2025
I liked it for the most part. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Not bad at all.
Margaret RobertsJune 18, 2025
Such a great read. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Will be looking for more from this author.
John NelsonJanuary 29, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Would probably read it again at some point.
Daniel CampbellApril 16, 2024
It was just alright. The writing was fine, but I didn't feel very connected to the characters. They felt a bit flat. Might work better for someone else, just wasn't completely for me.
Mary ThompsonApril 25, 2025
A solid read. It held my attention, even if a few things were a little predictable. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
David CarterSeptember 27, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
George TorresMay 24, 2025
A solid read. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Still a good book.
Michael WilliamsAugust 13, 2025
A very satisfying read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Will be looking for more from this author.
Laura YoungJune 13, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Will be looking for more from this author.
Margaret GreenApril 29, 2025
An average read for me. It had some good moments, but the overall plot felt a bit disjointed in the second half. Just right down the middle.
Charles MillerDecember 31, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
James MitchellMay 09, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Worth the time and money.
Daniel CruzFebruary 24, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Definitely recommend it if you like this genre.
Sandra FloresFebruary 06, 2025
Really enjoyed this one. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Ryan WrightApril 11, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. A solid 5/5 for me.
Daniel RobertsOctober 21, 2025
Finished it in a couple of days. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Michelle DavisJune 03, 2025
A very satisfying read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Would probably read it again at some point.
Carol RobertsMarch 02, 2024
Good, but not quite perfect. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Christopher ClarkMarch 22, 2024
I liked it for the most part. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Enjoyable weekend read.
David ThomasJune 14, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. A solid 4 stars from me.
Thomas JacksonJanuary 19, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. The author did a great job wrapping everything up at the end. No weird plot holes left behind. Worth the time and money.
Joseph PerezApril 27, 2025
Such a great read. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Will be looking for more from this author.
Joshua HillSeptember 11, 2024
Pretty good overall. I liked the main character, though some of the side plots were just okay. Still a good book.
Matthew ThompsonDecember 14, 2025
I liked it for the most part. Writing is good, just wish there was a bit more depth in certain parts. Still kept my attention though. I'd probably recommend it to a friend.
Sarah PhillipsMay 12, 2025
Pretty good overall. The middle dragged a tiny bit, but the ending totally made up for it. Still a good book.
Thomas WilsonNovember 28, 2025
Glad someone recommended this to me. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Will be looking for more from this author.
Laura TaylorFebruary 13, 2024
A very satisfying read. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. A solid 5/5 for me.
Stephanie RiveraSeptember 03, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. It has a good balance of dialogue and description. Everything felt like it moved at the right speed. Worth the time and money.
Elizabeth LopezAugust 10, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Would probably read it again at some point.
Linda BakerDecember 10, 2024
Really enjoyed this one. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. A solid 5/5 for me.
Charles MooreAugust 27, 2025
I was pleasantly surprised. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. Glad I picked this up.
Michael FloresAugust 11, 2024
Finished it in a couple of days. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. A solid 5/5 for me.
Robert RobinsonSeptember 09, 2025
Took me a few chapters to get into it, but it was worth it. Interesting premise and executed fairly well. Just a few slow chapters here and there. Not bad at all.
Nancy CarterMay 08, 2024
I was pleasantly surprised. I got really invested in the main character's journey. Everything just clicked for me. Worth the time and money.
Steven ParkerOctober 07, 2024
A very satisfying read. I loved how the story unfolded. It kept me guessing without being too confusing. Glad I picked this up.
Mary JonesJune 12, 2024
Honestly one of the better books I've read lately. The writing style is very engaging. It’s easy to follow but still has a lot of depth. A solid 5/5 for me.